I am pouring a concrete slab under a pavilion. Good luck. Should you continue living in a home where no moisture barrier was used when you have already experienced mildew smell? Good luck. Several areas including the center of the 34 ft run have become separated and have quite a lot of play in them. AND finally does it matter what we choose if we place a high performing barrier? My question is simple for the stick built issues, what is the best and most economical way to replace the failing OSB and what is the best vapor barrier to use over it when it is replaced. All three companies vapor barriers meet or exceeds all requirements of ASTM E 1745-09 Class A, B & C. Check these three companies out for yourself and make your own decision as to which one is the best concrete floor vapor barrier for your project. Thanks for the question. Do you have any suggestions on ways to reinforce the vapor barrier to make sure that it’s not punctured and OK for me to use as a storage space? Moisture in concrete can occur from a variety of sources: ground moisture that contacts the slab through either capillary action or as water vapor, high air humidity or drastic changes in relative humidity in its environment, leaking plumbing that passes through the slab, and more. In various places around the house we installed a gypcrete leveling course (1/2″ – 5/8″) and then a glued down engineered wood. Very simply, concrete will conduct electricity through the ions it contains like silicon, aluminum, calcium, and sulfur. Take care. 15 mil Vapor Barrier by Americover: Americover has a high performance 15 mil vapor barrier for installation under concrete floors and slabs that will retard moisture migration and radon from escaping through the surface of the concrete floor. The contractor I hired to form and pour the slab for my free standing garage has poked holes in plastic I had him put down as a vapor barrier. Great questions. Guide to Concrete Floor and Slab Construction, http://www.elitebuilding.com/tile/ref/trowelsize.htm, https://www.tcnatile.com/faqs/71-thick-setthick-bed.html, https://www.concreteconstruction.net/how-to/new-slab-on-top-of-old_o, https://www.stegoindustries.com/stego-wrap-vapor-barriers?hsCtaTracking=d654940e-2168-473c-934d-ed294b689fe3%7C23dd2231-f515-494b-8e7f-b042972bd744, 3 Key Lessons about Moisture from an Old Concrete Floor. Typically, the poly directly under the slab is to make a separation between the concrete and the soil to keep moisture from infiltrating the concrete after a flooring finish is installed. In this article, we will be using the term ‘vapor barrier’. We purchased our home 4 years ago. What barrier type is best? It seems to be more gravel and sand. Note: An earlier practice for vapor barriers involved placing a “blotter” layer between the vapor barrier and the concrete slab. We called in a leak detection co and they preformed all their tests and there were no leaks.Then we called the flooring people in and they pulled up the wood where the black was showing and there was moisture between the moisture barrier that was put down and the wood.the wood was showing mildew and the moisture was between the barrier and the wood. Perminator also helps reduce radon gases from entering a building through the concrete floor.All these new generation moisture and vapor barriers are very tough and will resist damage from normal job-site traffic. If yes, does it have an intact vapor retarder? Unfortunately, I don’t get into recommending a specific product, so I always recommend finding a knowledgeable installer that you feel comfortable with and trust. It sounds like you may have a traditional mortar bed installation here. claim is taking care of everything related to reconstruction phase, I think. They told us they could only install Vinyl since our concrete floor moisture levels are too high. Thank you for the question. Thanks for the question. I’m installing 5mm LVP (w/o padding) on the concrete floor in the basement. I’m building my own house and I’m at the stage that my main floor has already been poly’ed, styrofoam installed, rebar done and finishing the loop for my radiant heating. Good Blessed afternoon, I have a 50’x40′ heated garage, which is also heated, insulated and drywalled (walls & ceiling), its 92° outside… On top of the 6″ concrete floor w/ wire mesh, I also installed 12″x12″ porcelain tiles. Click HERE, FREE CONCRETE FINISHING TRAINING TUTORIAL VIDEO, Figure out how much concrete you need per fence post. I will send you an email shortly with some additional information and attachments. I am scheduled for concrete pouring already in the next 2 days but this situation concerns me. I live in the St. Louis area, and it’s humid in the summer and can feel quite dry in the winter. this is why i’m doing the slab so i have one solid and flat floor. Thanks for the question. the foundation blocks around the floor drain (the sump almost in the corner of the basement) have holes drilled in them where they meet the floor to drain any block absorbed water. I would always recommend a vapor retarder directly beneath the slab if you are going to install a low permeable finish on the surface. hi jason In one room on the first floor we wanted to remove the rather low drywall ceiling, metal studs and framework then apply nickel gap shadow box ship lap on the ceiling to create more headroom. No frost wall is required per zoning. We have a home in Houston that has been flooded with the hurricane, and all flooring other than the travertine tile has been removed. I hope this helps. The amount of bags it takes to make a yard of concrete is 90 (40lb bags) See the complete list for different weight bags on this page. Block foundation, built 1952. basement window will corrected before flooring installation FYI lol. Do I need to seal the concrete before I install? Putting this down prior to the tile may help alleviate some, if not all, of the issues. Jason, Over the Christmas holiday we had a water heater in the 2nd story attic leak causing flooding throughout our first floor which has continuous solid hardwood floors throughout. It is used for slabs that suffered moisture problems due to lack of moisture prevention means or failure of moisture prevention system. Paint just seems to peel and pop up. What is the best concrete floor vapor barrier? So now Floor & Decor told us to get the issue fixed before they come out and install another floor. Their 15 mil vapor barrier also controls radon gas, is resistant to hot/cold temperatures, resistant to soil chemicals & pollutants, and like I said allows virtually Zero water vapor transmission up through the slab. The concrete that it is setting on is kind of rough. Thanks for the comment. And is natural hardwood not an option? If you are unable to find the answer in their written documentation, I would call their technical center. You state the floor “sweats”. You should be able to find some type of geotechnical service in your area that can perform a core sample test of the garage floor. I would consult a local geotechnical company for additional information regarding performing the service. The slab is butted right against the outside wall of the building which is an old wooden country store with the wall opened up that has the normal reach in doors to the inside of store. Bone Dry Products supplies concrete sealing products with a chemical vapor barrier to mitigate moisture in concrete substrates like garage floors, warehouses, basements and more. If you think the concrete sealer is warranted, is there a particular product you recommend? If parts of the slab got cold enough to reach its dew point, I suppose condensation could form, but to have it be spotty is indeed strange. Their 15 mil vapor barrier also controls radon gas, is resistant to hot/cold temperatures, resistant to soil chemicals & pollutants, and like I said allows virtually Zero water vapor transmission up through the slab. Where plastic sheets must be joined, overlap the sheets by several inches, and use strong vinyl tape to secure them. Good luck. I hope this helps. What is your thoughts on this? After my recent rain damage, I pulled up the carpet and there was already mold and smaller mold spores forming. Now we are considering putting some type of barrier between the two, and are toggling between the mvb moisture mitigation product and a moisture barrier underlayment beneath the vinyl. I am on the 4th floor of a condo. It was tested and found to be fine. Now another year later and the defects are showing up in the wood in multiple rooms in the home. This page is a great resource. Thanks for the comment. Google “epoxy moisture mitigation”. They aren’t the only game out there, but it is a place to start. My only concern with laying a vapor retarder of that type, on the slab, would be the potential buildup of moisture between the slab and the retarder. Should I put a 2nd vapor barrier above the concrete floor before putting down floating laminate floor? I have a home that I did a substantial renovation on 3 years ago. The top of the slab is basically even with my wood floors and the only thing in between is maybe a 2″ to 4″ gap at best and some tin or aluminum sheathing in places. In there, they should spell out “concrete moisture” maximums. Vapor barriers are a way to keep moisture from getting into the concrete. Sometimes this is in the fine print, so it’s always best to ask specifically. After a drain backup ruined the rug we decided to upgrade with a porcelain 6×24″ tile so our floor could withstand any future pipe issues. Regular polyethylene plastic is made from recycled materials and low Or would a poly modified medium bed thinset be sufficient? Thanks for the comments. HiJason, I have a concrete slap screened in porch that I have painted several times. I hope you can help me. New for 2017: SureCrete’s DK 700 is a class 1 moisture barrier and vapor blocker for concrete floors. Is there a chance that the footings could fail at some point in the future? Thanks. I have mold issues and am looking for a house. Another option may be to have someone put a minor surface profile on the slab so if there is surface moisture present, the concrete has some traction, not just completely smooth. We used Thermax brand (available through lumberyards) of polyethylene vapor barrier because it doesn’t require an additional fire barrier. But I’m seeing like 74 degrees with 98 to 99% humidity. Just my opinion. I also thought about using a spray foam on the exposed slab and between crevices and on the wood joists in that area, but everything is too wet/ damp. The slab is in fine condition. Thanks. Thanks for the questions. He did and the moisture level was at 100%. Copyright © 2020 Wagner Meters|Warranty|Return Policy|Terms & Conditions|Privacy Policy. Can you please provide further clarification? Moisture Vapor Barriers Mitigate moisture in flooring applications. Take a look at this website https://www.stegoindustries.com/. Given that the “interior” will be so open to the elements, is there any benefit to installing a vapor barrier under the concrete slab? They specialize in concrete moisture testing. My dad and husband just poured two footings in our basement and forgot to put down the 6mil poly specified by the engineer before pouring the concrete. Well…. The contractor says that we must have a cracked slab that’s letting in moisture and that his installation technique was fine. It helps reduce mold and condensation in buildings and is resistant to decay so it will protect against moisture emission for decades. We have had several hardwood floor contractors out to bid putting in new floors. I don’t see much issue with slab degradation. Good luck on the project. Good luck. Have one of them evaluate and give you some input. If it does find a way to escape, will it get trapped between my walls and cause a problem? You may want to also look at power vents that may assist with increased airflow when preset levels of relative humidity and/or temperature levels are hit. How to install a vapor barrier. When he started working I asked him if he measured the moisture in the concrete and he said no he hasn’t but it doesn’t feel moist. Here are a couple of good products to start your research on: http://www.ardexamericas.com/en-us/Products/moistrem/Pages/MCRAPID.aspx, http://www.kosterusa.com/us_en/prodid-95-2300/ct+235-vap+i+2000.html. Good luck. We used treated joists (but not treated sub flooring and cheap pine hardwood tongue and groove, I hate pine). How would you recommend mediation to resolve issue. Sometimes the drying out process is done well enough by accepted insurance practices, but not always food enough to accepted flooring practices. construction these days. Too much moisture in concrete is a problem because it can cause pH changes that destroy adhesives. Teaching • Learning • Achieving •, Poly would be better called a vapor retarder as it just, The best vapor barriers for concrete floors and slabs are a new generation of Poly made from. It is very weird. Thanks. I do not want to replace this floor again anytime soon! I need advice on a product that I can paint (or apply) to a cement floor on a porch that is being converted to a sunroom. Thanks for the question. I’ve then had people suggest laying tile on it after it’s been diamond graded but that it could still come up through that but not be as bad because it will only come up through the grout. Both of these are flooring industry-accepted methods for concrete moisture testing. I have a 40 X 20 pole-barn type building with a concrete floor, it was probably built in the mid 70’s. Vapor barriers are less permeable than vapor retarders. How many bags of concrete are needed to install a fence post is calculated by the size of the post you use. I’m considering building a new home and the new home builder does not install a vapor barrier underneath the slab in the basement. He did not put vapour barrier under cement! I hope this helps. aren’t we afraid of the water in the concrete to be leaked to the sand. Also, would you see a need for wire mesh in this situation? Thanks for the question. If the basement slab was poured directly on the ground, rather on a true vapor barrier, then the ground underneath the slab will always be ‘in play’, and the moisture in the ground below will always want to move upward to the slab’s surface. Thanks for your advice. We had a slab poured in the crawl space below our house this summer. I just had a new concrete slab poured in my basement. makes a concrete vapor barrier called PERMINATOR. Based on the fact that two sides will be open and that the finished floor will be the actual concrete, I see no real reason to have the vapor retarder. I paid the concrete company my buddy owns it and dont want him to get screwed. I’m getting two different directions from two different contractors (with very different prices): #1 (Cheaper option) Pour new concrete on top of the old concrete Good luck. Thanks! Your email address will not be published. The footing will be created by cutting a 10 foot square section out of the existing slab, digging down 5 feet to make a 10x10x5′ deep hole. I have never heard of anyone utilizing poly to increase the strength of the concrete. It will have a laminate floor when done. Installation … The house was built in the 70’s so I’m not sure if there was any kind of moisture barrier under the slab. Rebar framework and equipment mounting studs will be built into the hole and then the hole filled with cement. Thank you for your time. Our rental home had a slab with laminate flooring glued directly to the slab. One of the simplest, most economical test methods for determining whether there may be moisture in concrete is the ASTM D 4263 Concrete Moisture Test. 3. I spoke with the contractor and he said that as long as the water is not touching wood, there’s no concern for black mold on the wood, but I’m afraid we’ll get mold growing on the cement and visqueen and am searching for a solution. The slab has plastic sheeting underneath it already. Prior to installing the wood, the wood was left at the house to acclimate and the slab was checked to ensure that the moisture level was acceptable to the manufacturer’s specifications. I had someone come out to test for moisture and they found “pockets” of high moisture throughout the house wherever the wood floor shows the defects. Good luck. Condensed moisture accumulation under the plastic at 16 hours can indicate a problem. However, the build location is next to the retention area for the neighborhood and was making squishy noises when I walked on the ground today. obviously we will lay plastic for the entire floor but thought would be double protection under the footing trenches and posts to protect from moisture. There’s almost always water underneath a building site. Unfortunately contractors or owners often discover that no vapor barrier was used or that the vapor barrier has probably been torn or damaged, possibly when the concrete was poured. I removed any tar paper that I could and placed a crawl space fan under the store to try to help dry it out. I would call a local building professional to evaluate the situation. should i cover the cement ground using poly tarp ? I refer to the American Concrete Institute 302.1 specification and specifically, this flow chart: http://www.cement.org/images/default-source/contech/construction/vapor_fig2_large.jpg?Status=Temp&sfvrsn=2. These subfloors typically gather a lot of moisture especially in moisture-rich areas where humidity or heavy rain is common. Usually, if you aren’t looking at putting a finish on the concrete, you have no issues with the moisture in the concrete. my issue is moisture. My uncle had the cooler installed appx 10 to 15 years ago. I am thinking of installing radiant heating in our basement. Say 12″ X 12″ tile or a breathable carpet. We put down the recommended barrier with the plastic backing before laying the floor. Added to that, beneath continuous flooring, moisture can also cause floor darkening or discoloration, efflorescence deposits, and other […] I’m inclined to trust him, but what do you think? • Vapor impermeable: 0.1 perms or less I would say you are right on track with the thought of mold growth. The home (19yrs old) has a concrete slab on grade with a visqueen vapor barrier under the slab. We are pouring a 24×30 patio in central Florida on a sand base . 2. I have no manufacturing information about the construction of the modular home back in 1990 and am not sure that any of the exterior walls of the modular have vapor barrier material on any of the exterior walls. for this. I have a home in West Florida with a detached garage that is a slab on grade. Dan Marks My understanding is that we need some kind of vapor barrier to protect against radon (even though from my research it seems the Pacific NW has a low radon hazard), as well as needing some means of keeping the cement dry. Building a Lake house and we are concerned that our builder forgot to place the vapor barrier down prior to the pour of the slab. The current slab has a vapor barrier already installed. Updated! Is the pavilion fully enclosed with doors and windows? Our luxury vinyl floor was laid directly on top of it. Hi Jason, our garage is approximately 12 years old. We installed laminate flooring about 6 years ago and now have a terrible odor. I would contact https://www.stegoindustries.com/ And see if they have a viable option for you. You can then measure the surface temperature of the concrete. I am planning on convert it into a living space and adding flooring. The concrete slab is then poured on top of it. Thanks much for your help. The original hardwood floors 2 1/4″ White Oak were installed on top of 5/8″ plywood which sits on 15# felt as a vapor barrier. Your answer helps. During the replacement, I attempted to reduce the moisture transference into the wood by installing some tar paper to act as a vapor barrier between the wood and the concrete slab. The soil is very sandy and the slab will be subject to occasional flooding both in summer and winter conditions. With the French drains, this may not be as critical, but you will usually see uniform coverage in a vapor retarder. I would want to test in the concrete section (in situ relative humidity testing), not just the surface of the concrete. They should be able to verify the existence of a vapor retarder and potentially help identify the source of the moisture. I have heard of people doing this, but I would always check local building codes to confirm acceptability. However I noticed when the vapor barrier was laid down there were some gaps of a couple inches of exposed gravel on a couple of the sides and probably the overlap and sealing was not done very well, so I’m concerned that there is some exposed gravel right beneath the new cement pad in several places. • Vapor semi-permeable: 10 perms or less and greater than 1.0 perm I live in Atlanta, Georgia, and I have a house which is 33 years old with a unfinished daylight basement. © Copyright 2020   |   everything-about-concrete.com   |   All Rights Reserved. First and foremost, follow the manufacturer’s recommendations for a proper, warrantable installation…including installing the 6 mil. I think he is just handing me BS and hiding behind the “moisture level” issue. On the other hand, the sheet also helps to ensure there is a break between the blotter layer and the concrete to keep groundwater from entering the slab later in its life. You have a lot going on here and many are moving variables. Steve. If Pergo is the finished product, I would start by calling their technical hotline (after quantifying the moisture levels) and asking them for recommendations or guidance. We have a condo in Florida that is on the ground floor. A concrete vapor barrier is simply a sheet of polyethylene plastic (Visqueen) placed directly on top of the sub-grade before the concrete floor or slab is poured to help keep moisture from the soil from passing up through the concrete. The house is on a concrete slab. If they do, moisture will get in and that’s what you’re trying to keep out. I popped up 1 of the tiles, it was really moist under there…can you please tell me what has happened here? So I think we can both agree on that. 2. You can buy a barrier separately or get underlayment with a moisture barrier built-in. The sheet would keep the construction water from dissipating into the blotter layer and help it to actually dry from the slab, if given enough time. Can you help me please? Thanks for the comments. I want to glue cork tiles down.Should I be concerned? Due to expenses of resident turnover, they decided to remove carpet/pad/tack and replace with sheet vinyl everywhere excluding Bedrooms, on the first floor for each of the properties. Regarding the roof coating, it would just depend on the actual perm rating of the coating as to whether it would be an effective vapor retarder. Please help!! For a basement floor (9′ below grade concrete slab – Ottawa, Canada location), are there any bad effects that could occur by putting a 6mil vapour barrier on top of the concrete slab, that a subfloor would be installed on top of? Much of what you said I’ll agree with but not the part that water will hurt the concrete. Is a vapor barrier below the slab sufficient or would you recommend also treating the slab w/a liquid carrier or lay one down before applying flooring? I also heard that that there is a moisture retarder/barrier that is like a primer that I can just “paint” on top of the concrete (it’s usually colored pink or purple). As long as there is moisture present in the concrete it will continue to get stronger and improve at an ever decreasing rate. The acceptable degree of vapor barrier permeability depends on the application. The contractor said he could rip up all the laminate and put down a vapor barrier, but he said it would be a waste since the laminate floor would act as the barrier. I’m going to start building, and vapor barrier doesn’t come in sheets as wide as the house, so I’m getting the idea that the sections/layers should be sealed together with some sort of exterior silicone stuff? It helps reduce mold and condensation in buildings and is resistant to decay so it will protect against moisture emission for decades. Pick an area that seems to have the worst issues, prep the area thoroughly, and apply the epoxy paint. What are your thoughts, we are new to Florida and sandy ground conditions. I’m hoping you can guide me in the right direction because i’m in the middle of a basement flooring nightmare…our house was built in 1977 and we have a walkout basement. As far as barriers, especially if you are using one to compensate for the possibility that you don’t have one below the slab, you get what you pay for, in my opinion. I can’t say whether vinyl planking would be better, but I would at least investigate it. I am not sure that diamond grinding and an overlay would do any better unless you used some type of pH resistant moisture mitigation product that would help the transmission of the moisture and salts. Nick. Hi Jason The crawlspace is probably only 1.5′, so it’s kind of tough to manuever around, but it is possible. !……please help? I’ve read some of your other posts and I’m about to google the epoxy moisture mitigation, which that may or may not be for me. Basement installed by reputable contractor 20 years ago. Thanks for the question. Good luck. Exterior tar waterproofing provides a water vapor barrier. I need you help or is something I need to do around the Concret slab?? I don’t believe it’s capillary action from the water table because when I pull back an area of the plastic, that area dries out in a day or so. You may want to start with a geotechnical engineer. Flooring moisture barriers are placed beneath the floor’s underlayment. Just curious if I’d have issues when the shed gets converted with flooring over the concrete down the road if I don’t use a barrier. 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